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Thursday, April 05, 2007


I was very impressed by your discussions this week (There were 10 students who particpated in the class blogspot this week), partly for the manner in which you articulated yourselves, but mostly because you were all able to raise some very key issues surrounding "illegal" immigration, discussed in Ngai: Foreign policy, culture, Racism, oppression of women, the difficulties of immigration processes, the international economic system, political oppression, and misconceptions made by the American people and through the American media. These are all complex issues, and you seem to be asking very appropriate and necessary questions.


I enjoyed Meagan’s comments because she pinpointed one of the major frustrations regarding illegal immigration, which is how polarized the views are regarding the issue: illegal is bad, legal is good. She used the terms “Black, white”. There is a reluctance to admit that illegal immigrants have real and valid reasons for coming to U.S. This polarization, this belief in absolutes, or the use of absolute terminology, dismisses the complexity of the issue, and is a notion widely held by the public. This is partly the reason that we have seen so little change in policy since early 1900’s.

Belinda continues this discussion and adds that problems of discriminatory immigration practice frustrates legal immigration. She argues that more focus should be on the corporations who hire illegally, rather than on the individual immigrant.

Cynthia brings up the role that media plays in perpetuating the stereotype.


Cezara’s comments focused on the complexity of illegal immigration. Her argument is that we cannot lump all issues into Immigration, but rather on the processes by which illegal immigrants come to the U.S. She mentions particularly the mistreatment of women, “lapdancers,” adoption, drug trafficking, and emphasizes that though the policies have remained the same, the “the process itself of illegal immigration, from an immigrant perspective, has been greatly transformed.” This post was intuitive in that it necessitates the complexity of the issue, and rejects overt assumptions regarding illegal immigration. She states “The significance of the sex industry rises in the absence of other sources for job, profit and revenue” and goes on to suggest that we fuel the sex industry by not permitting legal forms of revenue to reach these women.


Kate brings up the point that illegal immigrants are not coming to the U.S. from the 50 poorest countries, but rather from countries that are already connected economically to the United States. This is an important issue, she argues because “Framing Mexican immigrants as desperate criminals diverts attention away from the fact that NAFTA has had some seriously negative consequences on the Mexican economy.” (Though she doesn’t say this, she raises questions of Responsibility. As an economic superpower, do we have the right to dabble in other economies, without accept the repercussions of our own actions?)

Cynthia touches on this by stating, “What I am advocating is that the United States just reverse initiatives it has currently implemented in other nations that have proven to only worsen the economy of other nations or that has allowed for an authoritative government to continue to rule.” This is also a question of responsibility.

Julie points out that economic stability in other countries would force the U.S. to increase costs and wages for outsourced work. Yet, it is that instability that is a cause for illegal immigration. She also points out (and I agree with her) that Americans would probably still take issue with too many “legal” immigrants. Though she doesn’t say this, she raises the point that Racism is a major part of this debate, though it hides behind the guise of “illegal”. She also points out that illegal workers may boost our economy, because they work without the right for fair wages, unionization, or benefits.


Cuitlahuac emphasizes political oppression and the issues of culture. He also touches on racism, stating “The “Foreignness” concept illustrates the perverted mind-set that pervades and permeated mainstream America. Relations of domination and control attempt to legitimize or hide these xenophobic beliefs. Images of “them” appeals to the deep-rooted racism that is ingrained in many Americans from centuries ago.”

Racheal Deeds wraps up the discussion by referring back to the notion that legal immigration isn’t necessarily the solution, simply because “illegal” immigration isn’t the problem. She states, “All immigrants have been scapegoats for economic and political issues throughout the history of America from the Germans and the Irish to the Itialians and the Greeks and now the Muslims and the Mexicans, all scapegoats regardless of their legal status. The fear goes deeper that just jobs; it's a fear about the changes that take place in our culture.” She also raises questions about international economic stability, “if we stopped exploiting those countries…who would we make money off of? How could we stay on top if there's nobody at our feet?”

For next week's class, we will focus on recent developments in Congress concerning the GUEST WORKER PROGRAM (proposed).

2 comments:

Julie said...

Hey everyone! Two articles I thought might be of interest:

The first was posted on CNN at the end of March, but it talks about the White House's latest guest worker program:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/30/immigration.ap/index.html

The second came out today, and discusses how most major cities would be losing a substantial portion of their population if it wasn't for recent immigrants. Demographers argue that immigrants are helping to stabalize urban economies and keep cities vibrant even in the face of dramatic suburban sprawl. I think Camarota's comment at the end shows an incredible lack of awareness about urban life and it certainly suggests the racism we discussed in our last posts.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/05/metro.population.ap/index.html

Enjoy!

KFischer said...

Hey everyone. I also found some interesting articles not too long ago that connect to the discussions we have been having in class, particularly about immigration raids.

http://boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/20/as_immigration_raids_rise_human_toll_decried/

This first article talks about immigration raids and the effects of this on both people and companies. ICE is the branch that does the actual raids and their mission in Marshalltown, Iowa on Dec. 16th was one of their largest-ever enforcement operations. Immigration raids have been increasing in recent months and more and more illegal immigrants are being deported on a daily basis. Arrests of undocumented immigrants have grown an incredible 750% in the last four years. One of the main problems that has arisen from these raids is the growing question of child care. Families are seperated and children are dropped with relatives or friends. ICE is not required to care for the children of deported immigrants, and since more and more people are being deported, more and more children are lost in a whirlwind of despair and grief. There are two different sides to the issue, for people who are against strict immigration laws say that ICE should allow more social workers to help the children of deported immigrants. Opponents to tolerant immigration laws, however, say that it is the illegal immigrant's own faults for putting their children in that situation. I think that the illegal immigrants came to the United States in the first place to give their children more opportunity, which is hardly a selfish act. When illegal immigrants are being held for hearings, they should be electronically monitered instead of phsycially kept, so they can attend to their children and try to arrange living situations in the case that they are deported.


Another interesting article that I found has to do with a similar topic. This story is called "Foreclosure Wave Bears Down on Immigrants" and the address is:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/25/AR2007032501323_pf.html

This article is talking about the recent rise in foreclosure on homes as mortgage lending problems are multiplying. Immigrants are the most effected by this because their incomes tend to be lower. Many of the immigrants, unable to speak English and uneducated about the US markets, get sucked in by mortgage teasers and end up having to pay extremely high monthly amounts that they are unable to afford and therefore forcing them to move out of their beloved homes. I think that this is an important issue because it is something that doesnt really come to mind when discussing immigration and the effects that certain laws have on immigrant families. However, I believe that it is important to consider all aspects of the immigrant experience, and the surge in immigrants losing their homes in the past years has been so tremendous that it is important to recognize this issue and try to change it. Loan servicing companies are taking advantage of the generally limited knowledge that immigrants have and along the way, deteriorating their credit scores. Another big issue that stems from this problem is the fact that the families are under tremendous amounts of stress and the life they knew no longer exists, for their financial future has been ruined.

Let me know what you guys think about these issues.

-Kim